Sunday, November 8, 2015

Comments on Frazetta Erotic Images

As I promised, the images have been removed after a three day period. I had over a thousand views and countless positive comments. ONE person thought I was doing a disservice to the Frazetta family. What total nonsense. No one has done more to promote Frazetta's legacy for inclusion in art history. That takes intelligence and passion. I have been doing it for 35 years.  I have a legal right to show anything that I am selling. People must see things in order to buy them. This is only common sense.

Ellie Frazetta sold the supposedly racist cover to THUNDA 1 by giving it to an auction house. It was their cover image and made a lot of money for Ellie. Was she doing a disservice to the family? No, she was making money, doing business. Let us not be hypocrites here. The family sold the allegedly racist interior pages. Should they be blamed for tarnishing the legacy of Frank? No, of course not. Frank Frazetta loved this art. Everyone needs to understand that. Frank Jr. offers a portfolio of black natives on his web site. one is eating watermelon. Racist?  No, I think not. IT IS ART as visualized by Frank. These are beautifully drawn and beautifully colored. Is Frank Jr doing a disservice to the family? Absolutely not. He is exhibiting another facet of Frank's work.

Expand your horizons and see great art for what it is.

DocDave



16 comments:

  1. would be nice if you put them back up....3 days to catch them over a weekend...I would have loved to check them out...but was working.

    even if it's for only a few more days....a few people making some noise isn't worth the other few thousand that would have enjoyed them but might not have had the chance yet!!

    thanks Dave...the new videos are fantastic.

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  2. Response to all the anonymous listers i understand your thoughts and ideas. These pieces are creations from a certain time and they have a certain intention in Frank's mind. You are seeing fragments of much larger stories and drawing conclusions based on those fragments of story. This is completely improper. My intention is not to argue racism or non-racism. That is for another time. I am simply trying to sell goods and anybody that interferes with that will be hit with a restraint of trade lawsuit. The law is clear. Ellie had a right to sell her, allegedly, rascist cover, the kids sold the interior, allegedly, rascist pages. I am selling my art in the same spirit. It is economics here, not philosophy.
    Dave

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  3. I only ever dip into this (or any) blog from time to time, so I'm a little disappointed to discover that not only did I miss the chance to view these unseen Frazetta images but never even had a chance to see them...
    Good luck with auction Dave, I hope it goes well for you (I may even make a cheeky bid or two myself).
    Ps: I'd love if you told the full story of how Ellie's negative impact on the Frazetta legacy, I even brought this blog to Simon Bisley's attention and he was fascinated..
    Ken

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  4. Thanks, Ken. One day the full true story will be told. Truth has a way of always coming out.
    Give my best to Simon! Our paths did cross on several occasions.
    All the very best,
    Dave

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  6. So sorry I missed this, hopefully you will post again or maybe a mother book? As a long time fan it's so great to see images never seen before by Frazetta and thanks for sharing your experiences with him!
    Rory

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  7. Sorry for all the posts, I meant to say another book in the previous post...

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  8. No problem. Happens all the time. I have to screen the posts because of all the internet bots that try to invade these sites.
    Dave

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  9. In an amazon.com review of Edward Mason's TELLING STORIES: THE CLASSIC COMIC ART OF FRANK FRAZETTA published by Underwood Books in 2008 is the following: "We get...the full 1st issue of Thun'da... I'm glad they didn't try any PC color alterations of the African savages. The essayist does condemn Frazetta for the racism in some of his images, but the art remains untampered with..." As you know, Underwood published ICON, LEGACY, & TESTAMENT. Big Frazetta fans and supporters and yet, for all that, they publish an essay condemning Thun'da as racist.

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  10. Great blog Dave! Informative and engaging.

    I'm curious, I've always gotten the impression that Frank and Ellie were like Roz and Jack Kirby, why do some feel Ellie had a negative impact on her husbands legacy? She played such a major role in us even talking about Frazetta today, it's hard to imagine her playing a more negative role than positive. Obviously they are both human and prone to mistakes and shortcomings like the rest of us, I just hope whatever this truth is, that may or may not come forward, doesn't paint the Frazetta family in a sinister light. Because that would truly be a tragic element to be added to the Frazetta legacy.

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  11. The status of Ellie is very controversial and completely unlike Jack and Roz. The real story will come out one of these days. A really honest and comprehensive biography is needed. It will make a very interesting movie.

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  12. I met ellie at least twice at the museum.
    I never found her to be pleasant persay, but more cut and dry. She seemed to strike me as someone who was always looking for Franks fans to rip him off or something silly like that.
    Heck, we were there to pay homage to him, admire his work and buy what we could.

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  13. There are a hundred interesting stories yet to be told.

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  14. I bet there is Dave, I can only imagine...
    Take care,

    Vic

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  15. "There are a hundred interesting stories yet to be told." Dave would love to see a new post from you. We all need you and Frank in our lives...hopefully my posts are a little inspiration to tell a story or two. thank you...had a wonderful night here checking out the art and reading lots of posts and comments!

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  16. Yes, Richard, this whole episode with the erotic art really discouraged me from postings. Do people really think it is ok to censor art? I guesscso. Free speech us under attack on a daily basis. Bullying seems to be the order of the day. I do not deal with bumper sticker politics and cultural commentary. It is all so sophomoric, isn't it?
    And to think that this major treasure trove of Frazetta art is still not published because of fear from the politically correct left. Disgusting, reallyvdusgusting. The intellectual dishonesty just appalls me.

    Oh well....the stupid and uneducated would rather have us firmly on the socialist road to Venezuela. I still have hope.

    Thanks again, Richard!!

    Dave

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